The Flemingsburg City Council held their regular monthly meeting Monday, February 12, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. in the city annex.  Mayor Louie Flanery presided.  Council members present were Ricky Hurst, Marty Voiers, Scott Manning, Georgianna Sparks, Meredith Story, and Van Alexander. 

 

Councilman Voiers led the Pledge of Allegiance.  Minutes of the January meeting were presented.  Councilman Story noted the following correction on page 1, paragraph 3:  Councilman Story stated that testing would begin Wednesday, January 10th.    Councilman Hurst noted the following correction in the second paragraph of page 6:  Mayor Flanery appointed Marty Voiers, Jim Compton, Joy Roark, Georgianna Sparks, and Ricky Hurst to the Recycling Committee.  Councilman Voiers moved to approve the minutes with the noted corrections.  Councilman Hurst seconded the motion.  All were in favor.

 

Mayor Flanery recognized Mark Leet, Civics teacher at Simons Middles School, and the following members of his class:  Dalton Leet, Austin Hart, Clay Hampton, Colton Ramey, Taylor Schwartz, Shaina Roberts, Blake Wagner, Andy McDonald, Ellen Vice, Haley Doyle, Ethan Doyle, Nate Dillon, and Peyton Suit.  Mr. Leet stated that the students were attending the meeting on a voluntary basis to learn more about civic participation.  Councilman Voiers stated that January was city government month and KLC provided educational information for city officials to share with the students about their city government.  Voiers suggested working with Mr. Leet next year to arrange for city officials to visit the school system.

 

Gerald Carpenter, representing Carpenter Insurance, addressed council regarding the city’s fire and casualty insurance renewal.  Carpenter stated that the Council had asked him last year to obtain quotes from companies in addition to KLC and he had agreed to do so.  Carpenter noted that he had received a letter from City Hall in January requesting that he obtain independent quotes and asking him not to contact St. Paul Insurance Company because another agency was already working on a quote from them.  Carpenter stated that he had been the city’s agent for around twenty years and felt that the independent agent working on the St. Paul quote should have been referred to him.  He spoke of his qualifications and actions he had taken on behalf of the city in the past, noting that his agency had built the city’s insurance coverage from the ground up.  Carpenter explained that the city has occurrence coverage, which means that any occurrence during the policy period is covered no matter when the claim is filed.  He noted that it differs from claim coverage, which only pays on claims submitted within the policy period or no later than 175 days there after.  Carpenter noted that KLC is the Cadillac of insurance companies.  They are profitable, which means they are not going out of business.  They are accessible and the insure city’s property at 100% replacement.  Carpenter questioned the deadline for the quotes.  Information from KLC is usually not available until late May.  City Clerk Joy Roark suggested the other quotes be submitted at the same time.  Carpenter stated that Ray Robertson with his agency and a representative from KLC would like to meet with the finance committee to discuss concerns about the city’s insurance. Councilman Story will notify Carpenter of the next meeting date.

 

Mayor Flanery recognized David Graham and Donnie Christman.  Graham stated that he had been coming to council for 1-½ years regarding his water and this is the worst it has ever been.  Graham asked for an explanation.  Mayor Flanery said he had no explanation, but the city continues to test and search for answers.   Councilman Story suggested that the line to his house needed to be tested.  If the line is the problem the city could replace it.  Councilman Story reported that Microbac lab had done testing on the Maysville line, the city pit, Dairy Queen, Graham’s home, McKee’s in Indian Fields, and the water plant.  They tested basically for hardness and confirmed that the water from the wells is harder than surface water.  The lab recommended getting an engineering firm to test for compatibility and to make sure the water is safe.  Very hard water is safe to drink but hard on appliances and unpleasant to use. 

 

Councilwoman Sparks asked if the state (Division of Water) had seen Graham’s water.  He said he had contacted them, but they wouldn’t come.  Utilities Superintendent Kenny Dearing said he would ask them to come.  Councilman Alexander said his water was extremely worse.  Dishes had a film that couldn’t be removed and the water has stench to it even after being filtered.  He has had complaints from others.  Donnie Christman stated that problems still exist in the county as well.  Councilman Story said the state was not carrying the situation far enough.  They are only testing at the origin, not at the end users. 

 

Graham asked the mayor if he was still involved with the GFCRWC.  He confirmed that he was.  Graham expressed anger that he and other consumers in town were paying for this water.   He felt that the Commission and the Mayor were liable.  Graham further stated that he didn’t see a need for this source of water.  Mayor Flanery disagreed noting that a leak occurred last summer and the water towers were drained.  The city would have been without water had it not been for the well water.  Graham said it was only needed for a backup source.  Mayor Flanery stated that for that source to be available it had to be paid for through the sale of water.  Flanery pointed out that Graham had not been getting the well water for some time while they were trying to isolate the problem.  Graham insisted the problem was not in one line, but all over town.

 

Councilman Manning agreed with Councilman Story, more testing needed to be done.  Councilman Story asked if it was okay to proceed with finding an engineering firm.  Councilman Story apologized for Microbac, noting that they had indicated they could do all the testing requested, but later stated they couldn’t.  Firms considered would be checked out to assure they could do the testing needed.

 

Councilwoman Sparks said that the state would not pay for the testing and pointed out that the State had misled the council regarding the well water’s compatibility.  Mayor Flanery said he would take their concerns back to the commission.  Flanery noted that he is not an expert.  An engineer is needed and it will cost dollars.  Councilman Voiers questioned if the water had been tested at Graham’s house.  Dearing confirmed that it had been and it met state specifications.  Councilman Voier’s water had also been tested and the results were similar.  Councilman Voier’s commented that he did not have a filter and had not noticed his water being dirty.

Councilman Story reported that another business is having a lot of problems with damage to water heaters due to the water.  The city needs to pursue more testing.  Councilwoman Sparks requested that Mike Rice be asked to check Graham’s water.  Dearing stated that the water had been tested for sediment at the plant as well as some residents and the level was running .1 to .2 with .3 being acceptable.   Mayor Flanery stressed that he knew both Graham and Christman wanted the well water turned off, but the city had to honor their contract.  Flanery assured them that the city has not backed off in looking for answers. 

 

A member of the audience questioned what was the responsibility of GFCRWC.  City Attorney Tom MacDonald stated that they must supply treated potable water that meets the state specifications.  Dearing confirmed that they are within state guidelines and not in violation of their contract.  Councilman Alexander commented that the problems had been increasingly more noticeable in the last three weeks, pointing out more crystalline build up on his shower head and being able to hear his water heater sizzling.  Alexander also noted that he had kidney stones, which are caused by limestone in the water.  Alexander asked if there was a representative from the commission that would come and hear their complaints.  It was noted that Mayor Flanery is a member and takes the city’s complaints back to the board.  Donnie Christman asked if a group could go to the meeting.  Mayor Flanery stated that all meetings are open to the public.  The next meeting is scheduled for February 21st at Fleming Co. Water Association.  Graham asked if the meeting could be rescheduled to accommodate people who work.  Mayor Flanery will check into the matter.

 

Councilman Voiers questioned if the water problems cleared up last May when the well water was shut off.  Graham stated that it did improve.  Councilman Story confirmed that it improved at his house as well.  Councilman Voiers asked if the well water was shut off again and the problems continued, what would be the next step.  Councilwoman Sparks expressed concern that the well water had already damaged the city’s waterlines.  Councilman Voiers questioned if the city stopped using the well water would the problem still exist because the lines are not recoated.  Mayor Flanery said there would still be a problem.  Councilman Voiers asked why the problem continued to exist in his area even though he’s been told the well water is not coming into his area. 

 

Voiers also noted that the well water usage was reduced significantly in January.  Kenny Dearing stated that he had opened the valve to supply the hospital because the water line servicing them had been hit during construction on the library and again during construction on the new hospital.  The valve should have been closed once the lines were repaired, but it was not monitored closely enough.  Mayor Flanery stated that the city had to pay the minimum bill, but the commission will work it out so that the city will not be billed for any excess.

 

Steve Hatfield with Trace Creek Construction addressed council regarding the force main at the new library on the by-pass.  Hatfield stated that he had received a bill for repairs made to the sewer line for the library property.  The lines were not clearly marked and were damaged during construction.  Hatfield stated that Waste Water Superintendent Dale Clary did not have plans for the sewer lines, which were installed by the developer.  However, the contractor did have the plans and would have given Clary a copy if requested.  Hatfield stated that he had attempted to pay the sewer tap fee, but the city wouldn’t accept the payment because of the unpaid bill.  Trace Creek contacted KY Underground in June regarding location of the lines.  Clary attended the meeting along with members of the other utilities involved.  Clary stated he did not know where the sewer line was and had repeatedly said so.  Hatfield argued that if his company did not know where the line was they were not legally responsible to pay for damages.  Clary stated that he had spoken with Jack Covert, who was the job superintendent, and he had told him to send the bill to Trace Creek.  Hatfield questioned if the line cannot be located or is not marked properly how could they be responsible.  He also noted that, had the architect known where the line was, he would have designed around it or relocated the line. 

 

Councilman Manning asked how many feet of line were dug up.  Hatfield stated that once they hit the line it was discovered that a significant portion was going to be inside the excavation site and should be moved.  Dale Clary said that 90-100 feet were involved.  Manning questioned why they didn’t stop when they first hit the line.  Councilwoman Sparks stated it had to be moved for the parking lot.  Mayor Flanery commented that the owner of the building should have talked to the architect and the developer, Russell Montgomery, who had the sewer lines installed.  Montgomery didn‘t present the plans for the lines to the city until after the fact.  It was his responsibility to locate the lines.  Clary felt it was his responsibility to keep sewage from running onto the ground.  Jack (Covert) led him to believe he was to do the construction on the force main.  Hatfield stated that Trace Creek did not realize the city had not accepted the lines when they were instructed to repair them.  He expressed that Trace Creek would gladly pay the tap fee.  Clary stated that he felt the sub-contractor was responsible for the damage done, but had refused to pay.  His only recourse was to bill Trace Creek because they are paying the sub-contractor. 

 

Mayor Flanery stressed that the city could not pay for this.  Tom MacDonald agreed that the city is definitely not at fault.  Hatfield stated that his company would not let the library go without sewer.  Councilman Story suggested that the ordinance be changed to allow for signage to show what property has been accepted into the city so contractors would be aware.  Mayor Flanery noted that the contractor’s work has to be inspected by the state.  Hatfield said that Montgomery’s contractor was from Maysville and his name should be on the line.  Councilman Manning moved that the bill should be sent to the developer and Trace Creek not be held liable.  Councilwoman Sparks seconded the motion.  Councilman Hurst commented that if the city sends the bill to the developer he might not pay because he has nothing to lose.  If Trace Creek is allowed to hook up the city might not collect from them either.  Hatfield said if nothing could be resolved his company would pay the bill and seek reimbursement from Montgomery.  Councilman Manning rescinded his motion.  Mayor Flanery suggested sending a bill to Montgomery with a limited time to pay.  Accept the tap fee from Trace Creek.  If Montgomery does not pay, then go back to Trace Creek for payment.  It was noted that Montgomery is currently living in Florida.  Councilman Manning moved that the city send a bill to Russell Montgomery at his Florida address and allow him 90 days to pay; accept the tap fee payment from Trace Creek, and bill Trace Creek if Montgomery doesn’t pay.  Councilwoman Sparks seconded the motion.  A vote was taken with Councilman Manning and Councilwoman Sparks voting in favor and Councilmen Story, Voiers, Hurst, and Alexander voting against.  Motion failed.  Mayor Flanery asked council what other action was recommended.  Councilman Hurst said to let Trace Creek pay the city and then take action against Montgomery for reimbursement.  All council agreed.  There was no need for a motion.

 

Council briefly discussed changes to the employee handbook regarding uniforms, meals reimbursement, and city furnished cell phones.  Changes need to be made to comply with IRS regulations per James Driver with the Department of Local Government Services and Social Security Coverage and Reporting Branch.  Health insurance for retiree’s that are rehired was also discussed.  Mayor Flanery stated that City Clerk Joy Roark informed him of the needed changes after she attended a clerk’s meeting in November regarding IRS regulations.  Councilman Voiers stated that he first became aware of these changes a few years ago when the school board took similar action to comply with IRS regulations.  Councilman Story referred to the supporting documents regarding meals reimbursement and suggested council look at this matter again.  Per the IRS, meals reimbursements must require an overnight stay to be a non-taxable benefit.  Story felt it was unfair not to allow meals reimbursements even when an overnight stay was not involved.  Roark stated that record keeping would be more difficult because the reimbursement would become a taxable benefit to the employee.  Council would also need to consider whether the city’s plan would be accountable or non-accountable.  Councilman Voiers moved to table the benefit changes until they could be presented in the form of a municipal order.  Councilwoman Sparks seconded the motion.  All were in favor.

 

Council heard the first reading of Ordinance 2-07-1, amending the insurance premium tax.  Tom MacDonald explained that current statutes allow insurance companies to go back for five years and request refunds for overpayments unless a lesser time period is stated in the city’s ordinance.  MacDonald suggested that two years was sufficient time for companies to audit their files and request refunds.  Councilman Story moved to approve.   Councilman Voiers seconded the motion.  All were in favor.

 

Resolution No. 07-2-1 regarding the downtown sidewalk improvement project was presented.  Mayor Flanery stated that is was a Transportation Enhancement grant totaling $228,000 for sidewalk improvements.  Funding had been approved by the state, but no money would be released until the paperwork was submitted along with a copy of the cancelled check.  Councilman Voiers asked if this funding was for the city only. Mayor Flanery stated that he thought it was for the city only when the application was made, but heard later that the county may have been included.  Councilwoman Sparks moved to approve.  Councilman Hurst seconded the motion.  All were in favor.

 

Resolution No. 07-2-2 regarding construction the Fleming County Health Dept. Fitness Center was presented.  Councilman Voiers questioned why this resolution was necessary.  Tom MacDonald stated that it was a loan requirement by Rural Development. Councilwoman Sparks moved to approve.  Councilman Manning seconded the motion.    All were in favor.

 

Resolution No. 07-2-3 regarding Kentucky Public Employees’ Deferred Compensation Authority was presented.  Councilman Voiers moved to adopt.  Councilman Manning seconded the motion.  All were in favor.

 

Mayor Flanery recommended that Marvin Suit be re-appointed to the Industrial Authority.  Councilman Manning moved to approve.  Councilwoman Sparks seconded the motion.  All were in favor.

 

Tom MacDonald briefly discussed the contract from Quest Engineering.  MacDonald stated that he had questions about some sections of the contract and could not approve it until he hears from their lawyers.

 

Mayor Flanery stated that CD’s pledged against the city’s line of credit were about to mature and the credit line must be renewed.  Councilman Story moved to authorize the mayor and the city clerk to renew the line of credit for the total amount pledged of $404,731.84.  Councilman Voiers seconded the motion.  All were in favor.

 

Councilman Story reported on the finance committee meeting.  Story reviewed the recommended changes to the handbook regarding health insurance for retiree’s that are rehired.  Police Chief Danny Carpenter stated that he had compared the insurance through the retirement system with the city’s coverage and one notable difference was a lack of coverage for air transfers.  Councilman Voiers stated that the retirement system’s policy appeared to be much better overall, noting the lower deductible and lower co-pays for office calls and prescriptions.

 

Chief Carpenter reported on the safety committee.

 

Councilman Voiers reported on the recycling committee meeting.  Plans are underway to introduce the recycling program.  Flemingsburg fifth graders will be asked to participate in a logo design contest.  Voiers asked if the sanitation ordinance would need to be amended to include recycling.  Tom MacDonald stated that he would review the current ordinance.  If fines were to be included the ordinance would need to be amended.

 

Joy Roark reported on damage to the police department due to frozen sewer lines.

 

Danny Carpenter announced that the Task Force would be meeting Tuesday, February 20th at the Maysville Community College and encouraged city officials to attend.

 

Mayor Flanery asked Codes Enforcement Officer Gene Schwartz for his monthly report.  Schwartz became argumentative.  Mayor Flanery stated that his behavior would not be tolerated and told him to leave the meeting.  Schwartz refused.  Mayor Flanery instructed Chief Carpenter to escort Schwartz out of the building.  Carpenter noted that it was an open public meeting and asked if he could legally remove him.  Tom MacDonald stated that it was a public meeting but order had to be maintained.  Chief Carpenter and Officer Thurman Paige escorted him from the building without incident.

 

Utilities Superintendent Kenny Dearing had nothing to report.

 

Waste Water Superintendent Dale Clary reported that Thompson Brothers had submitted the low bid on the Cherry Grove project and it was considerably less than the funds allowed.

 

Councilman Alexander commended the Street Department for doing a good job cleaning the streets, and the Police Department for their handling of the funeral for Staff Sergent John Cooper.  Alexander reported a complaint about parking in front of Cheap’s car lot.  Officer Randy Sergent said the police could issue warnings.  If the problem continues they can issue citations.  Alexander also reported cars being parked on the sidewalk on Garr, Ingram, and East Water. 

 

Councilman Story reported on the KLC Elected Officials Training Academy that he, Councilman Voiers, and Mayor Flanery attended in January.  Story stated that they received a lot of training during the three days of sessions and received a lot of useful information.

 

Councilman Hurst questioned if the old city reservoir had been treated.  Kenny Dearing stated that he has the chemicals, but it has not been treated yet.

 

Councilman Voiers reported complaints about the cable access channel and questioned if the city was still funding the cable board.  Voiers noted that programs are not being aired.  He had attempted to contact Brad Gray, but could not get a response.  Councilman Manning said he had been going to meetings, but other members were not showing up.  The next meeting is scheduled for March 13th at 6:00 p.m. at the high school.  Councilman Alexander reported service problems with the new cable company.

 

There being no further business, Councilman Manning moved to adjourn at 10:15 p.m.  Councilman Story seconded the motion.  All were in favor. 

 

 

 

                                                            ___________________________________

                                                                         Louie K. Flanery, Mayor

 

ATTESTED:

 

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Joy Story Roark, CKMC                         date approved:  _______________________